cam pays in afghanistan -- campaigns in afghanistan wrapping up activities in iraq, and a new openness that the obama administration has pushed forward. and openness was, has been portray inside the space policy -- portrayed about in the space policy that you hear about now. more of a focus on international cooperation and a look at a different blend of space players in our industrial base, not only the companies that focus on the programs of record, but also the emergence of entrepreneurial and commercial space company. to talk about the obama policy, we have two gentlemen today. first, we have jim cullenberger. jim has a lengthy resumÉ, but i will focus on his time focusing on space policy, and that was as chief of staff for the obama white house, chief of staff for the office of science and technology policy. following jim, we have peter marquez. peter served under both the bush and the obama administrations working space policy, and at that time he was the director of space policy at the white house. but first we're going to start with jim. >> well, thank you, david. and it's grea